Sunday, October 09, 2005

my disaster is worse than your's

I just heard that a woman and child were rescued from the earthquake rubble after 60 HOURS.

I wonder how many mothers' and childrens' bodies are yet to be FOUND in New Orleans.

It's international news that 2 people have been rescued after 60 HOURS. People were stranded on international television for more than a week in New Orleans.

I really woonder sometimes how Bush sleeps at night.

117 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As if the hurricane was Bush's fault. You're obviously not educated. Bush is not responsible for the local response, he is responsible for the NATIONAL response. It is impossible to cooridinate a National Search and Rescue to a 30 mile radius in less than several days. You should be harping on the mayor and governor who were obviously under-prepared. You should do some research and understand how local, state and federal govt works before you blame Bush. OH, and I guess Bush blew up the levy to. HAHA MORONS!

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:27:00 AM  
Blogger Brook said...

just wondering -- how SHOULD they have worked in your opinion?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FEMA's purpose:

Advising on building codes and flood plain management...teaching people how to get through a disaster...helping equip local and state emergency preparedness...coordinating the federal response to a disaster...making disaster assistance available to states, communities, businesses and individuals...training emergency managers...supporting the nation's fire service...administering the national flood and crime insurance programs...the range of FEMA's activities is broad indeed.

http://www.fema.gov/about/what.shtm

They did none of this before or after Katrina. Bush hired an unqualified pinhead to head the organization. Plus Brownie was busy eating. (sigh) How sad our country is in such a state.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:02:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

Funny how the original poster has to seek help for a comeback. The problem is that democrats are so used to getting a pass for the things they say yet when challenged, they have no reply.

The state and local officials are clearly to blame. They had no idea of how to handle the catastrophe. When Gov. Blanco is more concerned about her political image than helping the people, I think you know clearly who to blame.

For Brook, even though you didn't ask me what I would have done I'll tell you. Use the buses to evacuate the people, take Amtrak's offer to help evacuate people, accept the food from the ARC instead of rejecting it, and shoot the looters and those who interfere with rescuers. I think those things would help. Probably the biggest thing I would have done is to cede control of the National Guard to the federal authorities rather than worrying about my political losses.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They're all to blame. Bush, Blanco, Nagin. But Blanco and Nagin aren't accountable to me. There's a reason I don't live in Louisiana. So why should I be concerned about their reaction?

Bush, on the other hand, is supposed to be accountable to me. So I'm rightly concerned what his response will be should a natural disaster or terrorist attack occur in my community.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:14:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

The federal government certainly shares in the blame and Brown was fired for his incompetence. But will we see Nagin or Blanco resign for their incompetence? Heck no. It's easier to blame Bush.

The state had issues a proclamation about the process that will be followed should a natural disaster occur. It was stated in the proclamation that the state is in charge and not the federal government.

I think we know what the process will be should there be a terrorist attack and I for one am very happy with Bush on this front.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you don't live in Louisiana, why should you care if Nagin or Blanco resign for their incompetence?

Why don't you care about the fact that when Nagin and Blanco failed, Bush went to John McCain's birthday party, instead than stepping in like a real leader and taking command from Blanco and Nagin - in order to save the lives of American citizens!?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:26:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

The assertion that Bush was attending an event rather than focusing on NO is ridiculous. You don't think he can do what he needs to do remotely? Should Bush somehow have been in the Superdome?? Would he then be helping?

I do care of the spin the media puts on this. Anything they can get a hold of that looks bad for republicans they run with. I used to think the media bias was BS but I'm becoming more and more convinced. Will we hear about the acceptance of the constitution in Iraq - a truly landmark accomplishment? It will be buried in the back section of the paper. Above the fold front and center will be Teddy Kennedy commenting on the anniversary of Abu Graib.

This is why I care. I care b/c I'm american and I love this country.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:36:00 AM  
Blogger Brook said...

"robert" -- you get an "A" for effort. i'm very impressed you set a blog just for me. that's real sweet.

i very much did ask for your opinion -- you speak with such authority i figured you must be in city or state govt and know more about the mechanics of these than i -- a simple housewife. it's a miracle i can navigate my backyard, much less the complex interworkings of local/state/federal govt.

judging from the quickness of your response, i'm guessing this is a subject near and dear to your heart. did you lose someone in new orleans?

lets ignore the fact that you are following me over to DU -- why would i ask anyone for help in answering YOU... an anonymous poster on my tiny little meaningless blog.

it's been a LONG time (in political years) since the hurricane. i've been off doing other issues. you might not have noticed, but your beloved administration is fixing to be INDICTED.

given that fact, i go back to my question about your interest in the hurricane. DID YOUR LOSE YOUR GRANDMOTHER to the rising water?

or, are you really worried about something else?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

I just now noticed that date of this blog. I don't know why I do this to myself but sometimes I want to know of the lunacy that happens on DU - the blame america first think tank.

To answer your question, no I did not lose anyone b/c of Katrina. I just care that the facts are reported.

As far as the indictment, we shall see what happens. This is a great day for the Dems. You have so much to be thankful for. You just might get to see Rove, Libby, and the unethical Haliburton Dick Cheney resign. Personally, I am not following this case b/c it's not something I'm interested. However, I am always interested in reporting facts. And from what I've read, "leaking" a CIA agent's name who is not a covert agent, is not a crime.

So like I said, we shall see what happens. Keep your fingers crossed - you just might get one here.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like a little somebody needed some help from the dingbats over at DU (insert hysterical laughter) to help them with their reply!!! Bwhahahahahah!!!
Here it is cut and pasted as the poor pathetic loony lib wrote it:



nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-25-05 10:50 AM
Original message
HELP! need a SNAPPY comeback to a FREEPER comment on my BLOG
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 10:53 AM by nashville_brook

here's the original post regarding the EARTHQUAKE RESPONSE compared to the NOLA HURRICANE RESPONSE, followed by the FREEPER comment.

anyone have any LINKs or SNAPPY COMEBACKS?

http://johnsoncity.blogspot.com/2005/10/my-disaster-is-...

my disaster is worse than your's

I just heard that a woman and child were rescued from the earthquake rubble after 60 HOURS.

I wonder how many mothers' and childrens' bodies are yet to be FOUND in New Orleans.

It's international news that 2 people have been rescued after 60 HOURS. People were stranded on international television for more than a week in New Orleans.

I really woonder sometimes how Bush sleeps at night.
posted by Brook at 11:42 PM

Anonymous said...
As if the hurricane was Bush's fault. You're obviously not educated. Bush is not responsible for the local response, he is responsible for the NATIONAL response. It is impossible to cooridinate a National Search and Rescue to a 30 mile radius in less than several days. You should be harping on the mayor and governor who were obviously under-prepared. You should do some research and understand how local, state and federal govt works before you blame Bush. OH, and I guess Bush blew up the levy to. HAHA MORONS!

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Oilwellian said...

I have a question for the wingnut...if New Orleans were hit with a nuclear bomb instead of a hurricane, are you saying it would be the local officials responsibility to respond? How would that be possible?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:15:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

Don't know if I'm wingnut but a nuclear bomb is direct attack on the country and therefore clearly the federal goverment would be the first to respond.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Oilwellian said...

I see. So because it was a hurricane which just happened to overwhelm and impede a local response, it's just tough cookies for the victims.

Maybe you can explain to me why the federal government responded to hurricanes that have hit Florida over the past two years. I look forward to your answer.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Nickcastle said...

More left wing people with way to much time "rolls eyes"

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:40:00 AM  
Blogger Brook said...

robert -- i want to know, and you probably already know, if you've lurked here for a while -- that arguing isn't my style. i prefer dialogue. there's no win/lose between people talking. just a continuum of interest. i find it interesting that you aren't following the indictments. this is big history getting ready to happen. it's this generation's watergate. surely that's got to mean something to you. you don't have to identify totally with "your team." you can step back too.

i'm not into the hurricane thing, neither are you now that you see the post is outdated. so what's really on your mind? why did you choose today to finally leave a post? i'm serious. this is not part of the argument. what was it about that piece (my frustration at watching a third world country have a better time with their disaster) that brought you to the point of entering a comment? i mean, isn't that incredible? you've reached out to someone you've never met and engaged them in quite the conversation. isn't that cool?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:48:00 AM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

What's so magical about 30 miles and several days? What part of your ass are you pulling those figures out of, anonymous? And WHY would it be "impossible" to coordinate such a search, any more so than any military operation? It might be dangerous, it might not be 100% successful, but if the will was there and the leadership was there and it was a priority to go in and look for stranded civilians like they were Osama fucking Bin Laden, I bet the results would've been surprisingly different. The fact that you're arguing the "impossibility" of all these vague things means you already share the awareness that a shitty job was done; you're just saying that better job could not have been done under the circumstances. Welcome to the best of all POSSIBLE worlds, Pangloss. I suggest a healthy dose of reading Voltaire to cure what ails you.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:48:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

Much to comment, I hope I get everything I want to say.

Oil: tough cookies for the victims? Where in my comments do I say something remotely that leads to this train of thought? The hurricanes in Florida have not caused levees to break and flood a city. So the circumstances in NO and Mississippi are not on par with what happened in Florida. Also, how about the fact that Bush urged NO local officials to get the people out.

Brook: Honestly, this is the 1st tiime I've ever been to your blog. It happened to be a top post on DU - that's why I happened on to it.

The indictments for this administratin in my opinion pale in comparsion to lies and cover ups of Wild Bill.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I loved how Brook ran to DU to try and formulate a response to your initial comment. Just goes to show that any moron can create a blog. How about thinking for yourself sometime instead of being a sheep for the clinically misinformed.

As for the indictments. I am afraid to tell you that this will be a letdown for your ilk. Just like all the bitching and moaning that took place when Delay's "mugshot" came out. I though a few of you nut cases at DU were going to off yourselves over that one. You just couldn't wait to see a disheveled man holding numbers. ROFL, what a letdown!!! The only indictments that may come down will be obstruction of justice or possible perjury. As a conservative, I say if they broke the law then they should be prosecuted. As for outing Plame indictments. Won't happen!

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:24:00 PM  
Blogger Brook said...

well, i'm kinda honored and creeped out at the same time.

everyone is on pins and needles for so many things right now. we have disasters and politicians acting stupidly and indictments. what's emerging to me as interesting is that people are keeping their shit together as well as they are. honestly. when i was a kid and watergate went down it seemed so BIG. it was b/c it was history.

there's something about "blogging" where people think that if they somehow get the most notches on their keypad for argument smakdowns that they have somehow participated in history has it happens. i guess that's the case somewhat. we are what we say we are. i'm not prepared to say i'm at war with you. i'd rather just have a beer and watch it unfold in the company of friends. my friends don't have to be liberal or whatever it is that we are -- i think that if you went down the list of all the people who have ever signed up on the JCF team you find a big diversity of political view.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:27:00 PM  
Blogger Gracie said...

Bush isn't responsible for one single failure. The man is a saint, God speaks to him constantly giving him blessings along with instructions, don't ya know?

This country is special, our great leader heard God tell him to free the entire Middle East. "Thou Shall Not Kill" is his number one belief. He had to send all those criminals to hell in Texas while Governor, don't ya know?

Our president isn't responsible for all the innocent deaths in the Gulf Coast, Iraq and Afghanistan, it must be God’s fault. Those silly people just happened to be in the way when a bomb was dropped, don't ya know? Read the bible, are you saying Jesus didn't approve of killing and bombing the helpless? Are you saying Jesus cared about the weak and homeless? GEEZ

We have so many people living in poverty in America. God hasn’t told our leader to help them. Are you claiming Jesus didn’t like the moneychangers or making his rich friends richer? Are you doubting our leader should give the wealthy a tax break? God isn’t telling him to take care of the weak, poor, or elderly. Don’t ya know?

I get so tired of everybody bashing our blessed Christian leader. He knows it’s OK to have a corrupt government, didn’t Rome? GEEZ

As long as we have a Christian man in the White House hearing the voice of God, I feel safe, don't you?

Believe me, the Muslims feel safe knowing Allah speaks to their religious leaders, too.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I actually feel sorry for Brook now. She is getting beaten up on DU for asking for help on this blog and some of them have turned on her.

Brook, I will say that at least you allow discent on your blog unlike the cowards at DU. For that alone you have my respect.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Despite all the bloviating and avoiding the real issue with side matters, it's quite obvious that no one can answer why Bush didn't react like the "strong, decisive leader" that the corporate media claims he is, and come to the rescue of American citizens when their state and local governments failed them.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Alright Gracie, you've upset me with you lack of intelligence. I'll post after your thoughts. Before Brook, it was dialogue but in comes the idiot and now the gloves come off.

Gracie said...

Bush isn't responsible for one single failure. The man is a saint, God speaks to him constantly giving him blessings along with instructions, don't ya know?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What's the problem with a man of faith? I for one am glad he prays. Funny that something (God) stands for all that is good is so quickly admonished by the left.

This country is special, our great leader heard God tell him to free the entire Middle East. "Thou Shall Not Kill" is his number one belief. He had to send all those criminals to hell in Texas while Governor, don't ya know?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You're right. This country is special. It's free. And that means it's hated by many. And those many love to kill Americans.

Our president isn't responsible for all the innocent deaths in the Gulf Coast, Iraq and Afghanistan, it must be God’s fault. Those silly people just happened to be in the way when a bomb was dropped, don't ya know? Read the bible, are you saying Jesus didn't approve of killing and bombing the helpless? Are you saying Jesus cared about the weak and homeless? GEEZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Innocent???? Hardly. They (Iraq and Afghanistan) will stop at nothing to kill Americans. If I recall correctly, Bush told the Taliban to turn over Bin Laden. He also ordered Saddam to step down. Sounds to me that a peaceful resolution could have happened.

We have so many people living in poverty in America. God hasn’t told our leader to help them. Are you claiming Jesus didn’t like the moneychangers or making his rich friends richer? Are you doubting our leader should give the wealthy a tax break? God isn’t telling him to take care of the weak, poor, or elderly. Don’t ya know?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Ok. this is where i get mad. The one thing that really bothers me about Bush is that he spends way too much money - and that includes those impoverished. The..."wealthy a tax break" makes me cringe. Since when is allowing those who earn money the ability to KEEP there money they earned equate into the government "giving" money back to the wealthy. Utterly ridiculous. BTW, everyone got a tax break - not just the evil wealthy.

I get so tired of everybody bashing our blessed Christian leader. He knows it’s OK to have a corrupt government, didn’t Rome? GEEZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Whatever happened to the innocent until proven guilty theory? I think this is hardly a corrupt government. There's no evidence of this yet.

As long as we have a Christian man in the White House hearing the voice of God, I feel safe, don't you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yes. We agree on something.

Believe me, the Muslims feel safe knowing Allah speaks to their religious leaders, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Is there evidence that the muslims feel safe? I don't see how that peaceful religion can make a declaration that they feel safe.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Still avoiding the question, huh?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This person gets help from DU?

LMAO no wonder the person gets no help, those nuts are to busy making "indictment" posts.

3/4 of general discussion is nothing but those and a new one every few minutes.

No wonder it is full of sheep, moderators cant control it.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:50:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

anon: is the "question" for me?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The question's for anyone robert. (I thought you were replying to me. If I was wrong, I apologize.)

Here's the question again:

Why didn't Bush react like the "strong, decisive leader" that the corporate media claims he is, and come to the rescue of thousands of American citizens when their state and local governments failed them?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Anon: I honestly don't know how to reply to your question. What constitutes a strong and decisive leader? And why are you so hellbent on receiving an answer?

I think Bush did what he could. It was reported in the papers that Katrina had passed without significant problems. Then the levee broke and people scrambled to pull together a plan and yes that did include the federal government.

Bush toured the area, gave a press release to galvanize people saying they would rebuild NO - which I highly question personally.

NO is unlike any other catastophre that I can recall. What really jeoparized the rescue were hooligans shooting at those trying help. It was chaos to say the least.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How pathetic. This idiot couldnt come up with his own response, so he goes back to DU to have the rest of his heard speak for him.

"Help me come back with a snappy response to a Freeper's commemnts on my blog"..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5161984&mesg_id=5161984


You are so fucking stupid.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:11:00 PM  
Blogger Gracie said...

Robert,

As a Christian, it scares me when leaders of any government claim God is giving them orders. It should scare you, as well.

Bush claims to be holy and inspired by the teachings of Christ yet he practices the opposite. He has not been honest with the American people. Large sums of money go to DOD yet funding for education, healthcare and Veteran's benefits are cut. As people, we either care about others or we don't.

There is no excuse for what happened in the Gulf and it will haunt me until the day I die. It could have been you, Robert. These people were treated worse than animals.

We must come together and take care of each other simply because it's the right thing to do. When our government is wrong, we must hold them accountable.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:12:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Anon: Who are speaking to?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey anon, the poster's name is "brook," her picture is of a woman, but you call her "he."

Who's "fucking stupid?"

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:20:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Gracie:

Never has George Bush told him that he was ordered by God to retaliate against Al Queda or to invade Iraq. He prays and believes he is doing the right thing.

Also, please tell me where there are "cuts". I'd love to see this. And, are they actually cuts? Or is the percentage increase not as great as in years past? A war on terror costs money. Sounds cliche but it is the truth. We've seen what results when we rest on our laurels.

What happened in NO is not George Bush's fault. It is ridiculous to claim otherwise. People being treated like animals were b/c some acted like animals and I believe those are isolated incidents. Also, I agree that people standing in the streets/bridges/Superdome and forced to stay there was awful and failures made by many including the federal government. I've never debated otherwise.

As a christian myself, I've had this discussion with my grandmother and she recently sent me some bible verses to read so I want to read those before I comment further about a Christian perspective. At a high-level I believe you can be Christian and be protective at the same time.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You tell me robert. Does being a strong and decisive leader involve leaving your own citizens to die when their local officials fail them? Does being a strong and decisive leader involve relying on unreliable (and according to many on this thread, biased) newspapers for your information when you're leading the greatest nation in the world?

You tell me robert. What constitutes a strong and decisive leader?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:23:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Anon: Please show me evidence of where George Bush left people to die. I'll comment more when you provide this.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't answer the question. I understand.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:29:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

I did. It's called reading comprehension.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:29:00 PM  
Blogger Gracie said...

Robert,

We will have to agree to disagree.

Education is key, the truth is available if you want to research and find it. You have to be willing to open your mind and not believe everything you are told.

Peace,
Gracie

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No you didn't. You deflected it.

What constitutes a strong and decisive leader robert?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:34:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Alright Anon: even though I asked you the question and you did not define it, I will humor you with a very simple statement.

A strong and decisive leader is one who is of action. An individual who makes a decision, means what he/she says, and acts on what he/she says. For me, that pretty much sums up George Bush - a man of action, or a strong and decisive leader.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So why did it take so damn long for him to act?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:50:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Gracie, c'mon, you can do better than that can't you? I belive I have done some research and can tell you there are no cuts. Again, if there are actual cuts, please let me know where I can read about them and I will be happy to tell you I'm wrong.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:51:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

It didn't (in all caps). The execution was lacking and Brown got canned, there was fighting between Nagin and Blanco for political gain which caused for further delay. This is the last post.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:53:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

oh brook, something that was posted on 10/9 and we're just now getting around to it.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Attaboy Brownie!

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:56:00 PM  
Blogger Brook said...

phew! you guys wore me out.

i've heard-tell of people watching DU. and i'm sure DU'ers have their haunts. that's not my thing. and i've got quite a crit of the way DU is run. it's not my life. and i don't think we accomplish anything by arguing. no one really "wins" in a way that's satifying -- i mean, what exactly IS a satisfying argument between strangers? is it anything like a small misunderstanding between friends? :) i'd rather have people read stuff here...respond...and come back.

i'm gonna open "this bar" one day. i'll call it The New Quarterbacks. smoking not only allowed, but recommended. big leather chairs/boothes. pinball. fat glass cigar ashtrays. soul food. homebrew.

when that day comes i hope to everyone there on drinking terms.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:09:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Ahh smoking recommended in the bar. Better hurry up b/c the trend is for cities to ban smoking which I think is a very good thing.

Another trend I hope to see is that smokers will pay higher insurance premiums compared to non-smokers. I'm tired of paying for their disgusting lifestyle.

BTW, I'm predicting several barfights with the people on your blog.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Bill (the unforgiveably tardy) said...

Well several of us have been in bar fights already so that should not be a big deal.. Sorry to enter the fray so late, and sorry I have not read all the above posts throughly, so if this has been asked before please forgive;

How was it that Conde was able to get to Pakistan faster than she got to Alabama/New Orleans? Was there a better deal on shoes there??

And how is it that Florida got FEMA releif so much faster than New Orleans? It's not like thier Governor knew anybo.... ok, forget I asked that one,,,

And how is it that Federal buses can be used to extract people from the Keys, but not from NO??

And I am still curious how Al Gore got 2 airplanes full of the sick and elderly out of NO, but Bush only managed to get his photographers, but I will save that question for another day.

BTW, anybody notice what the big oil companies quarterly reports show during these tough economic times?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Say George Bush is decisive in the wake of Katrina is like saying that Nemo was a Border Collie.

Well, that's not true. Once he heard about the disaster there he cut his vacation short and decisivly went to a political fundraiser and decisively strummed a guitar for a photo op. If only someone had a copy of "My Pet Goat" he could have completed the decisiveness trifecta!

Brook does not care for arguing on the blog, she prefers dialogue. I make no such distinction.

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Question Brook,, if you open the "New Quarterbacks", where will you find a set of twins like Amber and Scarlett?

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:45:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Bill, read the above posts. I answer many of your questions about the hurricane.

Also, by all accounts, these are not tough economic times just for clarification. The market is pretty stable.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:30:00 AM  
Anonymous G_B said...

Wow brook, you are lame. So that means you fit right it at DU. Have fun at that hate-filled echo chamber.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hahahaha.... any credibility Brook had she lost when she asked the lunatics at DemocraticUnderground for help responding to a "freeper". It's all about taking digs at President Bush and people of faith with the hateful people on that site. There's more to life than politics. Brook has my pity, and I will pray for her.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Congratulations, nashville_moonbat! You have become the laughingstock du jour of the internet. How wonderful that you brought another moonbat into the hive at the DUmp. Yet another one to point at and laugh!

Keep up the moonbattery, Brook. You're providing hours of entertainment for the rest of us!

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Bill said...

uh Robert, I now have read the above, and you didnt say anything about Conde's shoes,,,, or anything else I asked.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh Bill, check Ms. Rice's job description and get back to us. (BTW, pesky may get in the way.) Thanks for rushing in from DU to save the day for Brook.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:54:00 AM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

Robert, you've missed Gracie's whole point here:

" Believe me, the Muslims feel safe knowing Allah speaks to their religious leaders, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Is there evidence that the muslims feel safe? I don't see how that peaceful religion can make a declaration that they feel safe."

If we pick up arms in the name of our STATE-SUPPORTED religious beliefs, at the behest of a political leader, we're indulging in exactly the same kind of behavior as they are. You can be glad all you want that Bush is a (self-professed) "man of faith" but under the Constitution he has sworn to uphold, he needs to keep that the fuck out of the public eye. Since we're into cross-posting around here these days, here's a taste of some of MY action from DU:
"..I probably ought to make a little more clear that I'm really just fed to the gills with all of Bush's Christian posturing, and I couldn't give a fig in either direction what people who identify themselves as "true" Christians do or don't know. I respect everybody's right to worship as they please; I respect no one in their attempt to push it down my throat, because then they've started violating MY right. Startling how simple that is, in't? As holder of the highest office in the land, one of the things he ought to be doing is upholding all such rights of all of us- and there he goes, impinging on me. Inappropriate. It's a small thing, in a way, but in a way not- one of the dangers of these big times is the small but really crucial things that get lost in the shuffle. The first impetus for this country- the reason people were willing to risk so much hardship and death- was for the privilege of religious freedom. Not for money or profit or anything else. Before everything, there was this: not to have some fucking powerlord tell you you had to bend the knee before his god. I think it's possible to be a passionate Christian and a passionate American and still find this mixing of the two revolting and absolutely antithetical to what it means to be an American, at least- in fact I think it's absolutely necessary." So before you chime on how safe it makes you feel to have a big public, Christ-flaunting man supposedly leading this country, consider what that spectacle is doing to one of the foremost principles of freedom this country was founded upon, and realize that freedom and safety are not generally the most compatible of situations, anyway. If American freedom is to remain AMERICAN and we are not to become just another theocracy, then it is the DUTY of the president and ALL political leaders to keep Christ and ALL GODS OUT of our political life. A-fucking-Men.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you next going to say the reason the Houston Astros are losing the World Series is because Houston is an evil city? Are you then going to go back to the DUmp for a "snappy comeback?"

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, it is because they suck.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:51:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

Elizabeth: I shouldn't be surprised to see your rhetoric but you telling me I missed the point of a post is like Cindy Sheehan saying that the hurricans are just a little wind and rain.

I'll admit, my post was a little TIC and I personally think that was quite clear.

Now on to your point, Have you or anyone over at DU have a clue?? Your post and the DU crap is insane. You think Bush led us into this war b/c he wants Christianity to prevail over Islam? How about evidence of this? This is so absurd. Why then doesn't Bush arrest all muslims in the US, kill them, or force them to convert. Heck, isn't that the point of Islam - to subjogate all non-believers? Yet you're defending these people that want nothing more than to kill you.

Even your darling John Kerry said they are a grave threat. He supported to the war. He had the same intelligence that Bush had.

This war is not about indulging in battle b/c of religious beliefs as you say. I cannot emphasize this enough that our country is and will always be free, which means freedoms to worship whomever you wish so long as the United Nations doesn't govern us.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

Bill: I assume you're speaking of Condi Rice. Tell me one reason why Condi should have been in NO or Alabama?

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous jeskibuff said...

Geez, everyday I'm reminded just how dumb liberals are! First of all, Bush DOES NOT RUN FEMA! He's not involved in the intricacies of disaster planning. That's supposedly the job of that particular bureaucracy. If they screwed up in any way, it's not Bush's fault, but it's his responsibility to pressure the agency to clean up its act. There are HUNDREDS of federal agencies, expected to each do their duties with due diligence without the POTUS micro-managing them. As far as responding to ANY disaster (even nuclear), the first responders are ALWAYS local, followed by state and finally federal. The locals know the area best and should have the basic resources ready to respond to any disaster. We saw the NYFD in action at the WTC long before FEMA showed up! Nagin is an idiot and the New Orleans disaster is the trophy he gets to wear for the rest of his life! Blanco is just as responsible for the disastrous response, particularly in blocking the feds from being able to step in. But nevermind that, both Nagin and Blanco are Dumbocrats, so foolish DUhmasses ignore that factoid and point the finger at Bush! The blame-game strategy is transparent and the reason why Democrats are rapidly losing their credibility.

Gracie says "When our government is wrong, we must hold them accountable." Well, Gracie, you first have to recognize WHO did wrong. To focus the blame on Bush clearly shows your bias and/or total lack of comprehension.

bill says "how is it that Florida got FEMA releif so much faster than New Orleans?" There are several simple answers to this question: 1) Florida's local responders and state government had their act together. They worked with and coordinated with FEMA, enabling FEMA to better participate. 2) FEMA, under pressure from the Bush administration made improvements so that mistakes made in Louisiana wouldn't be repeated.

bill also asks "how is it that Federal buses can be used to extract people from the Keys, but not from NO??". Once again, lessons were learned from New Orleans. The better question to ask is why Nagin did nothing with all those school buses to evacuate his citizens prior to the storm. It would have saved lives (and also the buses).

Elizabeth is obviously one of DU's idiotic moonbats, worthy of great ridicule. She says "American freedom is to remain AMERICAN and we are not to become just another theocracy, then it is the DUTY of the president and ALL political leaders to keep Christ and ALL GODS OUT of our political life." Get a clue, Elizabeth! Seperation of church and state DOES NOT prohibit Bush from declaring his faith! We understand that you are terribly frightened by any kind of moral direction that threatens your totally immoral and wasted existence, but that's your problem! Now if Bush had declared that you needed to attend church, you might have a point, but so far the only point is at the top of your head!

Elizabeth says "I probably ought to make a little more clear that I'm really just fed to the gills with all of Bush's Christian posturing". Well, the rest of us are fed up with your stupidity and inability to properly analyze and interpret current events. Keep your focus on hating Bush and you're certain to help marginalize your already drowning Democratic Party. I'd really like to see at least two strong parties to keep things in check, but you guys have really gone off the deep end! Keep your current direction though and don't be surprised as your candidates continue to lose elections.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's never Bush's fault! He is perfect and blameless for everything! Don't you moon bats know anything?

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everything is Bush's fault. From the increasing price of spaghetti sauce to my car's flat tire last week. If it is bad, it is Bush's fault and anyone who doesn't believe as I do is, like, stupid.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Marvin Nash said...

Can we start focusing on the real issue please?
You know what the real tragedy in this country is?

Carnies. Circus folk. Nomads, you know.
Smell like cabbage. Small hands.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as saying that Elizabeth might have a point if Bush said she needed to attend church - well, that's not an order, nor a law, and truth to tell, I'm inclined to say she does need to attend church. Is that forcing her to attend church? Is that forcing religion on her? Can't she hear a little advice without making a "federal case" out of it?
Suse

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Ok, so if Conde wasnt supposed to be in Alabama or NO, why did she go at all? And why did she have to shop for shoes first?

And if Bush isn't ultimately responsible for the effectiveness of FEMA, who is?

And if the economy is so freaking great why have fuel prices double on Bush's watch, and if the markets are an indicator then how can you explain that they still havent gotten back to the levels they were when Bush took office?

And,,, I realize that is alot of ands, but I am responding to several posters above,,,, I didn't come here from DU, I have been on this blog since it started. All are welcome though, even the Freeptards that don't agree.

Have a nice day.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:45:00 PM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

Robert: re: rounding up Muslims: what's Gitmo about? Try walking through an airport with a middle eastern-sounding name these days. I'm not defending people who want to kill me; I'm for making a distinction between that and depriving people of their Constitutional rights and due process of law and upholding notions of such things as innocent until proven guilty. You've got a lot of temerity calling me INSANE when you haven't the intelligence to tell rhetoric from real thought, but that's why you and all your ilk are so easily led down this slippery slope by a paranoia-instilling demagogue who makes you see boogie men everywhere while he loots freedoms from you that you haven't the intellectual sophistication to understand, or the moral courage to defend.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:56:00 PM  
Blogger Brook said...

i remember corso's lectures on privacy rights in the constitution and i must admit, beforehand i had a much different view of the whole deal. i'm surprised any of it would be controversial for the rugged individualist /slash/ conservative.

blah blah blah -- ya'll are wearing me out. who's up for dog haiku?

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:10:00 PM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

Oh and Jeskibuff, you don't have the privilege, and never will have, of knowing ANYTHING about my totally immoral and wasted life, so YOU get a clue. I could pick your brains off my shoe and they wouldn't leave a greasy spot. Separation of church and state needs to be maintained scrupulously because otherwise it starts to carry the force of coercion. It doesn't HAVE to be made into a formal law to start to function as an impingement on people's freedom. Long before someone "forces" you, you can feel you had "better," you "ought to." Is that what you think of, when you think of being free? No, excuse me, when you think of freedom, it's probably just the freedom to vote for people who'll lead us into irredeemable quagmires, make the whole world hate us, and call people smarter than you "moonbats." Which, by the way, I think is a lovely term.

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Did somebody say "Dog Haiku"???

"My dog licks her butt
And she still has better sense
Than anon posters"


get it? "sense/scents"???
you always have to look for the interal irony in dog haiku.. where is Julie when we need her most?

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:02:00 PM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

When I get a dog
No matter what kind
Call it "Moonbat" I will

Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:25:00 AM  
Anonymous jeskibuff said...

Bill says: "if Conde wasnt supposed to be in Alabama or NO, why did she go at all?
What kind of ridiculous question is that? Robert asked for a reason why she should be there. You're acting as if she can't go WITHOUT a reason. Since when was New Orleans or Alabama off-limits to Condi? Her job description mainly involves foreign countries (i.e.,Pakistan) but doesn't really prevent her from setting foot in the United States, does it? Also, I don't believe there's any edict that says she can't buy shoes. Did she surrender all of her personal rights when she accepted the position?

Marvin Nash says: "Can we start focusing on the real issue please? You know what the real tragedy in this country is? Carnies. Circus folk. Nomads, you know. Smell like cabbage."
This topic concerns disaster relief. While we have already mentioned the folks at DU, we really should dedicate some other thread if you want to talk about those lunatics.

Bill says: "if Bush isn't ultimately responsible for the effectiveness of FEMA, who is?"
First of all, it's quite obvious by this question that you continue to want to blame the Bush administration for the response screwups. This is just totally disingenuous, as you conveniently overlook the disastrous negligence of Nagin and Blanco. That's okay. We understand how you liberals try to redirect everything in order to target your opposition. But to answer your question, FEMA's leadership is responsible for their effectiveness. Bush has already taken action to replace that leadership, so what's your beef? Why are you angry that the huge ineffective government that you libs long for turns out to be bloated and ineffective?

Bill says: "if the economy is so freaking great why have fuel prices double on Bush's watch"
I understand that you're angry that the economy is doing great under Bush's leadership. After all, you had INCORRECTLY predicted just 3 years ago that he was going to destroy it. Interest rates are still low, unemployment is low and even the high gas prices have had a tough time dragging the economy down. But to blame Bush on the worldwide energy problem just highlights your ignorance. You conveniently omit China and India from your equation. You fail to understand that 2 powerful hurricanes have diminished our nation's ability to refine oil. If you want to blame Bush for the changing economy of 2 Asian nations and the damage done by 2 hurricanes, then you just look even sillier in the eyes of reasonable people.

Elizabeth says: "Oh and Jeskibuff, you don't have the privilege, and never will have, of knowing ANYTHING about my totally immoral and wasted life"
A PRIVILEGE you say?? Oh, isn't THAT rich? I'm heartbroken, I really am. Does that mean I no longer get to clean up your dog's messes?? My life is shattered. /sarcasm>

Elizabeth says: "I could pick your brains off my shoe and they wouldn't leave a greasy spot."
Ooooh. I just love it when I can get a moonbat to start foaming at the mouth!

"Separation of church and state needs to be maintained scrupulously"
And tell me, do you have any instances where Bush violated the separation of church and state? NO?? I didn't think so.

"Long before someone "forces" you, you can feel you had "better," you "ought to." Is that what you think of, when you think of being free?"
That's just basic moral behaviour, but we've already mentioned your aversion to anything moral. Basic morals are the foundation of freedom. "Thou shall not steal" enables the freedom of someone to retain their possessions. Yes, it limits the freedom of the thief, but that's just the way it works. Sorry to burst your bubble.

"when you think of freedom, it's probably just the freedom to vote for people who'll lead us into irredeemable quagmires"
Irredeemable quagmires? You moonbats would be the first to complain about Bush's "lack of action" if had done nothing and terrorists succeeded in killing another 3,000 Americans. You clearly have no understanding about the motivations and determination of radical Islamists.

"...make the whole world hate us"
Just because you SAY things, doesn't make them true. Just because the 2004 election results didn't correspond to your trumped-up "DU'ed" polls doesn't mean your fantasies are true and the reality is false. Just because Dan Rather WANTED to believe those memos were true, didn't change the fact that they were bogus, did it? The whole world doesn't hate us and just hoping that they do doesn't make it so.

"...and call people smarter than you "moonbats. Which, by the way, I think is a lovely term."
I'm glad you like the term. Just the fact that you adore it adds a new dimension to the term. Everybody else recognizes it as a synonym for lunatics, and that's rather derogatory. As far as your implication that you're smarter than me or any other conservative, then I'd be happy to put out a little challenge: a little debate just between you and me. The topic? Your choice...pick the subject you feel strongest on. I prefer civil discourse myself, but if you want to get nasty I can go there too.

Here's the link: http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?p=453276#post453276
Just me and you. No one else can participate according to the rules of the forum. The invitation's out there for you. Are you able to brave leaving the protective womb of your DU echo chamber? You won't get banned there like I would if I posted at your beloved commie site, as long as you follow some simple common sense rules (i.e. don't "crap on the carpet" like many other DUmmies have done)

Dog Haiku?
Haiku's really not my kind of poem
With limericks I'm much more at home
But I do get my jollies
Mocking liberals' follies
'specially when their mouths start to foam!

Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off to the DUmp again for help?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5190970


Poor, stupid moonbat. Quit while you're ahead. Take down your blog before someone in Nashville recognizes you. You don't want to spend the rest of your life wiping down tables at SATCO, do you?

Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody came to your rescue in the first thread, so you had to make another. How incredibly pathetic.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5191332


Have you no shame?

Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous jeskibuff said...

Brook, why is it necessary for you to get all your answers from DU?? We're right here. There's really no need to guess. Just ask us instead. DIRECTLY. We'll give you honest answers, to the best of our abilities.

Well, from that first cry of help, Brook asks the following questions:

"Seriously, what do you think they are getting from the social exchange?"
I personally find it immensely satisfying to squash moronic theories. I also find it beneficial to my fellow man to deliver reason to areas where only insanity once dwelled. You made the mistake of allowing people to speak freely on your blog. You probably now understand why DU only permits whackjobs to post there. Many of us conservatives would like to make this a better world for EVERYBODY to live in, and that involves getting to the REAL reasons behind problems, not resorting to this blame Bush/blame America philosophy that has no basis in reality. We can only do so if there's a dialogue, but the major source of liberal idiocy in this world is DU, and the only way we can communicate with DUmmies is through these temporary windows that you occasionally leave open.

"What's the language game?"
I don't understand what you mean by this. But please, tell me why are you playing this language game with "the site that must not be named"? The "doppelganger-antimatter DU" as you call it. Isn't this some kind of language game where you can't mention CONSERVATIVEUNDERGROUND on DU without your speech getting censored? Wasn't it Elizabeth who was talking about freedom? Why aren't you free to speak your mind on DU, I wonder?

"Why spend the time?""
I could ask you the same question. Why do you waste time soliciting opinions from people at DU concerning your Homeboy theory? If it's such a brainstorm, you should get all the kinks out of it from people who will give you an opposing viewpoint. Or are you afraid that it's too frail to stand up to criticism? Why waste time on a blog where you can't defend your own beliefs, but have to run for help in order to buttress them?

""Are they blowing off steam?"
In a way. I have a huge intolerance for stupidity. It's really not to hard to squash stupid comments with a bit of common sense and reason. I'm all for new and innovative ideas, however. Do you want to make the world a better place? If so, then stop with all the stupid stuff and let's get down to business. That may involve surrendering some of your faulty beliefs, but if they're really faulty, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO CLING TO THEM?

Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:12:00 PM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

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Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:27:00 PM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

Foaming, Jeskibuff? Hardly. You aren't worth the life of a tree for the napkin it would take to wipe one fleck of spittle off my chin. Meet you somewhere for a battle of wits? When you've already led the best of your charge with character assassination attempts and name calling, somehow you've failed to demonstrate why this should hold sufficient entertainment value for me. YAWN.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:39:00 PM  
Blogger Brook said...

isn't it adorable how the CU'ers are BEGGING to be engaged. "come on, please -- please."

it's kinda sweet.

the real deal is, tho, that these critters have an axe to grind with DU. they've prolly been tombstoned for disrupting and haven't had their "last word" yet.

PLUS -- i'm sure it's a lot more comforting for them today with the miers resignation and the LAST DAYS of EMPIRE to retreat to Johnson City than to face the REAL WORLD.

:)

it's a monkey trap ya'll and you been caught.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:00:00 PM  
Anonymous jeskibuff said...

Elizabeth says...
"Foaming, Jeskibuff? Hardly. You aren't worth the life of a tree for the napkin it would take to wipe one fleck of spittle off my chin. Meet you somewhere for a battle of wits? When you've already led the best of your charge with character assassination attempts and name calling, somehow you've failed to demonstrate why this should hold sufficient entertainment value for me. YAWN."
How predictable. You beat your chest about how smart you are, then feign boredom when it comes time to demonstrate your intelligence. Anyone with the least bit of wisdom can recognize this as cowardice. Any way you look at it, you've been outsmarted. I called you on your bluff and your best option was to back down. Don't worry, you're not the first. The liberal ranks are filled with cowards just like you who don't have the ability to step up to the plate. And by the way, I had no intention on entertaining you...I only wanted to demonstrate your cowardice and stupidity...and I succeeded!

Now seeing's as Elizabeth has cowered into the corner and soiled her panties, I'll open up the debate to ANYONE else who wants to take me on. I'll even take several of you on at a time! The link is there and the invitation is open.
http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?p=453276

Brook says...
"isn't it adorable how the CU'ers are BEGGING to be engaged."
Isn't it adorable how you all marvel how brilliant you are while in your protected DU environment, then turn all yellow when caught outside the fortress? Geez, Brook, you had to plug your brain into the DU Matrix early on for answers to the most elementary questions. How does it feel to be so dependent on someone else's thinking? The funny thing is, even with the supposedly thousands of DU members, the arguments you collectively come up with are STILL so easily shot down! It reminds me of the million monkeys/million keyboards analogy concerning Shakespeare.

"the real deal is, tho, that these critters have an axe to grind with DU"
I've never posted once on DU. Therefore, they've never tombstoned me or given me any reasons to want revenge on them. As I said before, I have issues with extreme stupidity, and my compass needle just happens to point to the motherlode: DU and liberals.

"i'm sure it's a lot more comforting for them today with the miers resignation"
I find this totally amusing. You're actually CHEERING that Miers' nomination got shot down? Don't you understand that it was CONSERVATIVES who wanted it killed? You REALLY think this is a victory for your side? On the day when an ultra-conservative gets a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court as a result, don't you think you'll wish that Miers had been confirmed? What you're doing now is akin to praising the hangman for his finely crafted knots just before he places the noose around your neck.

"it's a monkey trap ya'll and you been caught."
We're caught? Who's the one still desperately seeking "SNAPPY comebacks" from fellow DUmpsters? Who's the one whose brain cannot function independently? It seems that I've provided many common sense, reasonable responses and received not much besides "YAWN". Is this really the BEST that you can do?

Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:00:00 PM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

I'll BET my soiled panties are a wet dream for you and the rest of your Romper Room sized mental giants at CU, Jeskibuffoon- manufacture some more tell-tale images, go ahead! I'm cowering in the corner, right? What's the rest of it? What am I wearing, Jeski baby? Huh, huh? You know all about it, don't you ; )) Probably why you need church so damn much.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:05:00 PM  
Anonymous jeskibuff said...

Well, kudos for at least admitting that you soiled them. That took a bit of courage! Bravo!

Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:33:00 PM  
Blogger Brook said...

you're not interesting to anyone here b/c you're a closed system. you have all the answers and they will serve you well as long as the world doens't impinge on your fantasy of power. good luck with that.

let us know if you ever write or think of anything of your own. we'll be sure to wear our mittens as hell will be freezing over.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

I visited CU earlier. Other than it taking it's name directly from DU (well originality is not the conservative strong suit)I found it to be a vacuous abyss of mediocrity and suckitude. Of all the imitatation unoriginal websites I have seen, it is clearly the most lacking in style, original thought or meritorious writing. It is hardly worth the smigen of traffic it currently gets, and should be generally ignored by the wise in the future as it's indigenous stupidity vex the reader and reduce them to the 8th grade reading level so many of it's denizens appear to aspire to reach someday.

Have a nice day.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:54:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Much too much time has passed since I hit this blog where the delusional and america-hating left frequent.

Elizabeth: What's Gitmo about? My reference was about subjogating non-belivers. Do you have proof that the US is forcefully converting the detainees to Christianity? Or is this another made up story such as the desecrating of the Koran?

Please tell me what constitutional rights have been violated presumably from middle-eastern men walking in airports. I for one, am in favor of racial profiling b/c it is common sense. No not all muslims are terrorists but go look at a terrorist list. Almost all terrorists are muslim. Perhaps when association of the Islamic faith openly and publicly denounce terrorist activity, maybe then I'll feel a little more for them. Additioally, I have been pulled aside 3 times in the last year when flying to go through an additional search process. Am I offended? No. I'm more concerned with the safety of myself and those around me. It's common sense. No one is guilty, or made to feel guilty, for having a search conducted on them. Again, please tell me what constitutional rights have they, or I, been deprived of? Even the anti-America, embarrassment Teddy Kennedy had this to say about recent legislation to renew the Patriot Act "In retaining the expanded powers of the Patriot Act, this bill also maintains and improves the constitutional safeguards that are indispensable to our democracy," said Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.), a committee member.

Elizabeth: Please post a real thought and not a fabrication of truth you find on DU or Moveon.org. I'm growing tired of poking holes in your rhetoric.

Paranoia-instilling demogauge you say. Please. We only have beheaded americans, threats that the US will pay for their involvment from the peaceful religious folks that they are, and just 2 days ago, the President of Iran saying that Isreal should be wiped off the face of the earth. You do know he said that don't you. You do know that you could replace Isreal with America don't you? Boogie men, hardly. They're real, there is empirical data to prove it. Cowards, perhaps. But figments of your and my imagination - not even close. I'm certain Wild Bill would even agree with me.

Again what freedoms have been looted from me? I can make an argument for money. Democrats have been confiscating money from me for years. Oh, wait how about this restriction of freedom - right down the leftist wheel house. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive
/0721053bush1.html

For Brook and Bill: ...a closed-down system, ...vacuous abyss of mediocrity... - funny how the truth hurts. It's a palpable defense you have.

Friday, October 28, 2005 11:25:00 AM  
Blogger Brook said...

catch the clue train bob -- we really don't care what you think.

i can tell you are spending time on this today because IT'S JUST TOO PAINFUL FOR YOU TO OPEN A PAPER AND SEE WHERE YOU STAND.

your views are irrelevant and your interests are stale. you don't have truth. i don't have truth. stop wasting your time - take your fevered ego to a therapist for the obsessive behavior. they have drugs -- you won't even have to WORK to lose your fixation. it's just bad chemicals.

now, go read a paper and try and deal with what's in front of you today. have a merry fiztmas.

Friday, October 28, 2005 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous jeskibuff said...

Brook says: "you're not interesting to anyone here b/c you're a closed system"
Omigod...the hilarious irony of that comment coming from someone caught red-handed while desperately seeking a "SNAPPY comeback" from her own "closed system"! That hurts as much as Sandy Berger calling me a thief!

Let's make a short list of some of your many failings:

1) You let their hatred for one man (Bush) totally obliterate your judgment
2) Your team has a long history of getting everything wrong. "Bush will destroy the economy", "Bush is toast!", "Beware the Downing Street memos", "These TANG memos are REAL", "Fahrenheit 911 will sour the public on the Bush cabal","Clinton never lied" blah, blah, blah
3) You can't fight your way out of a paper bag. The minute someone poses a simple question that you can't find in your Cliffs Notes, you run screaming for help to other people who are also too stupid to provide a good answer.
4) When face to face with an adversary, your bravado instantly turns into a scramble for excuses.
5) You accuse others of the very faults you are guilty of. Who can be more hateful than liberals? Who cannot survive on their own brainpower? Who prove to be the cowards that wilt under the least bit of scrutiny? Who are the champions of election fraud? Who comprise the bulk of the money-grubbing elite? Ask Kerry, the Clintons, Soros, Mooron, etc. for that answer!

With all of this, you expect me to be upset by your criticism?? If you want to be taken seriously, you need to remedy many of these glaring faults. Your responses indicate that you'd much rather stew in your ignorance, so I predict that you're in for a lifetime of ridicule unless that changes. I won't be the last one to laugh at your antics. I really would be embarrassed if I was you, but apparently your personal agendas are too precious, preventing you from seeing out of the holes you've dug yourselves into.

The main reason people like me pay attention to people like you is to "know thy enemy". We put you under a magnifying glass. We analyze your behavior and determine your motivations. Call it stalking if you want...I prefer to call it scientific analysis, or perhaps psychoanalysis. With this research, we are able to predict your every move. If Bush doesn't show up, you say "it demonstrates his indifference and apathy". If he does show up, you claim "it's just a photo-op". You wouldn't want to be treated that way, but your definition of "fair" differs from everyone else's. Occasionally you'll surprise us, but for the most part, we can expect lame excuses, finger pointing, outright lies and wild conspiracy theories as standard fare out of you.

I found the account of my last venture onto a liberal site: The Randi Rhodes Show's message board.
Here's the link: http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?p=142764
You'll note that the same elements occurred back then: excessive chest-beating, claiming superiority to conservatives and threatening to "go on the offensive". Then we politely show up on their doorstep and offer to engage them on their own turf. They go TOTALLY quiet, pretending to totally ignore us. The very same old, same old predictable cowardly lib behavior that you have just repeated. Way to go! Thanks for validating my observations. If any of you should ever grow a spine, you know where to find me!

Friday, October 28, 2005 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

Brooky: I deal with what's in front of me everyday. Media-bias, liberal denial of facts, and a job where too much of my money goes to the government.

I've read papers today and posted alike. Your liberal defense mechanisms are disingenuous. Go read the post on my blog for more of today's news.

Friday, October 28, 2005 12:01:00 PM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

Jesus Christ, Robert, you can't even SPELL Israel. Deal with what's in front of you? Yeah, like "Isreal." You can't even remember what you've looked at and get it right. A parrot can do better, and I'm going to to trust YOU to tell ME what real THOUGHT is?

Friday, October 28, 2005 1:39:00 PM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

And whip out that dictionary of yours and tell us all what a "demogauge" is. We're dying to know.

Friday, October 28, 2005 1:42:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Ha, figured that would be your best argument Elizabeth. So I misspell words. You miss points. Which is worse? I'll take my side.

Friday, October 28, 2005 4:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

A "Demogauge" is what you use to measure Dems.

Mine goes to 11.

Friday, October 28, 2005 7:40:00 PM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

*I* miss points, Robert? No, my POINT, since you couldn't find one with a giant blinking neon sign, is that someone who can't even copy a spelling out of the daily news- which you tout yourself as paying attention to- and get it right, is not going to advise me on more important matters. But you're right in that I didn't form my impression of your slip-shod scholarship from your spelling alone; the content condemned you long before that ever did.

Friday, October 28, 2005 9:58:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Elizabeth: Very well. I think we've reached an agreement. I will begin sending you all my writings so that you can spellcheck for me and fix any grammatical errors. Perhaps you can handle that.

Friday, October 28, 2005 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brook go play in dumb dumb land leave blogs for adults ok?

Friday, October 28, 2005 11:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Anonapussy, go play in the street and leave blogs to people who are not too cowardly and chickenshit to sign thier names.

Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:53:00 AM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

Here's an assignment for you, Robert. Let's see if you ARE up to some real work. You say you've been helped by the Bush administration, and you allude to that being financial. Can you tie that to factors that ONLY have to do with the Bush administration and that don't have to do with normal life transitions, i.e. from college to work or accruing a greater number of years on the job, that just happened to take place while Bush was in charge? What specific Bush policies have benefited you economically that aren't subsumed under larger picture of productivity in your life?

Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:57:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

Elizabeth: It is pointless to debate this with you. I gave you an example of how I personally have been benefited by the Bush Administration. And the reality is that is if you work, you too have benefited from Bush's policies.

I could list the no child left behind educational policies, the patriot act to better protect this country, the sarbanes-oxley act to hold corporations accountable for sec filings, AND not signing the Kyoto treaty b/c there's no proof of global warming. But I know to you they don't mean anything to the "larger picture of productivity".

Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:05:00 AM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

Saturday, October 29, 2005 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous jeskibuff said...

Bill says: A "Demogauge" is what you use to measure Dems. Mine goes to 11.Wow. We're in worse shape than I had ever imagined! I honestly thought that SOMEWHERE in this vast country we could find a Democrat with an IQ higher than 11! I suppose though that building a Demogauge that went higher than 11 would be as useless as putting a 400MPH speedometer in a stock Chevy Cavalier.

elizabeth says: Robert, you can't even SPELL Israel.
Oh, pity poor Elizabeth! I caught you in the old liberal's double-standard trap while you were frantically scrambling to find something that could possibly make you feel superior to Robert. We noticed that you hadn't made the same disparaging assessment of Brook, given the many misspellings, misuses and grammatical errors she's made. For example...

my disaster is worse than your's...
woonder... interworkings... smakdowns... satifying... boothes... tho... doens't... fiztmas


Bill's spelling is even worse, so why have you yet not told him how disgustingly inferior HE is?:
releif... decisivly... alot... interal... imitatation... smigen... thier

Congratulations, Elizabeth...you can out spell Robert! You also can probably brag about the plastic-framed certificate you have hanging on your wall from your 6th grade Spelling Bee championship. Considering the two free Happy Meals that you also won, that probably was one of the best years of your life, eh? But guess what? It's obvious that you pulled your little spell-check weapon out of your goodie bag because you didn't have the capacity to respond to any of his points. You lose once again. You've been outsmarted by someone whose spelling is less than perfect and who you had hoped to prove to be inferior to you! This is a common liberal tactic: if you're out of ammunition, you've got to make the best out of whatever you can scrounge up! Run out of spitballs...must use spit!

Bill says: "Anonapussy, go play in the street and leave blogs to people who are not too cowardly and chickenshit to sign thier names.
Hey, until Brook removes the "anonymous" option from her blog software, anonymous posters have just as much right to post their comments as you do. Also, what's the big difference between "Brook", "Oilwellian", "Robert", "jeskibuff", "Bill" and "anonymous"? Most posters still ARE anonymous. Really the only reason for NOT choosing the "anonymous" option is to make it easier for others to track the conversation. Internet message boards are for the most part anonymous. Be honest now...failure to employ a pseudonym doesn't mean someone is cowardly, now does it? A little lazy, yes! But cowardly? NO!

Brook says: "go read a paper and try and deal with what's in front of you today. have a merry fiztmas."
Hee hee. I hope your "Merry Fitzmas" met YOUR expectations. Many of your fellow DUhmasses seemed quite disappointed with the lumps of coal they got in their stockings. Comments like "Well, all I got for Fitzmas was a Scooter! I am a little sad. Is there hope there will be more?? " were found among some pretty entertaining threads. For more deliciously fun reading, check out:
http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22814

Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Bill said...

"Mine goes to 11" is a reference to Spinal Tap (dumbass) and Demogauges don't measure IQ. As to the use of anonymous being cowardly I stand by that. I know most of the posters on here and all use thier names or nicknames that we all knew them by in the day for the most part, except Elizabeth, who is of course actually Brook (inside joke there, you wouldn't get it.) My spelling is the stuff of legends, but most of these folks went to school with me and know my ability to hold forth in argument. Futhermore Brook in the past has chastised my spelling in her guise as Elizabeth and it was like water off a duck's back. I suppose they have learned to live with it.

The point is that anyone that won't put thier name on a post is just a chickenshit coward. The kind of chickenshit that would send other people's kids off to war, but not his own daughters. The kind of coward that got his daddy to get him into the air guard while other kids had to go to Vietnam. That kind of chickenshit. The kind that smears the name of public servants that have the courage to stand up and call them out on a lie to the public. That is the kind of chickenshit coward I am talking about. I believe you refer to such people as "decisive" and "couragous."

Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:05:00 AM  
Anonymous jeskibuff said...

"Mine goes to 11" is a reference to Spinal Tap
Well, I "kind of" saw that movie. Truthfully, I fell asleep while watching it. I'm not too impressed with Christopher Guest movies - the humor is much too predictable...you can see the punchline all during the setup. I was totally bored with "Best In Show" right from the start. The "two left feet" joke was just one of many lame attempts at humor. It only got a little better at the end.

...and Demogauges don't measure IQ.
Hey, I was only playing along with what I thought was a little fantasy game. But if you really think there's such a thing as a Demogauge, then that little factoid rather supports the IQ theory and shines yet a little more light on why liberals and conservatives will never see eye-to-eye. Let's call it the "IQ gap".

As to the use of anonymous being cowardly I stand by that.
Of course you do. It makes absolutely no sense, so it makes absolute sense that YOU should stand by it!

I know most of the posters on here and all use thier names or nicknames that we all knew them by in the day for the most part, except Elizabeth, who is of course actually Brook (inside joke there, you wouldn't get it.)
Of course I understand it. It's all part of the DU Matrix. Brook/Nashville_Brook/Elizabeth/Lisa Williams are really just four people sharing one brain. P.S.: I can hear Elizabeth whispering "t-h-e-i-r...t-h-E-I-r..." in your ear!

My spelling is the stuff of legends, but most of these folks went to school with me and know my ability to hold forth in argument.
Will we be seeing any of this ability soon, or are you just going to continue childishly slandering the President??

Futhermore Brook in the past has chastised my spelling in her guise as Elizabeth and it was like water off a duck's back. I suppose they have learned to live with it.
Just pay them no mind. I only brought up your spelling inability to highlight Elizabeth-Brook's petty double standard.

The point is that anyone that won't put thier name on a post is just a chickenshit coward.
So, am I a coward by taking the time to key in "jeskibuff" before I post or not? What makes anonymous posters cowards? I'd really like to hear your reasons. (not really, but it might be entertaining)

The kind of chickenshit that would send other people's kids off to war, but not his own daughters.
Oh, so is this a new requirement for Presidents now? I was under the impression that we elected leaders that would make decisions based on the best interests of the citizens. All of a sudden you start making up these stupid little rules that imply the President can't make any decisions unless his circumstances mimic those of the people affected by those decisions? How absolutely ludicrous.

You DO realize that we live in a free country, don't you? Do you have any idea what that means? That means Barbara and Jenna are free to pursue their dreams, just as you were free to pursue yours. Our military is composed entirely of volunteers who chose their careers based on their own free will. Unless they were totally stupid, they understood that there was the possibility they could be involved in combat. Now, quit with this idiotic stuff and come up with something a little more intelligent, won't you? Let's see some of this "holding forth in argument" stuff that you promised.

The kind of coward that got his daddy to get him into the air guard while other kids had to go to Vietnam.
Oh yeah. I assume that you have some kind of proof for this, don't you? Just like Dan Rather's wonderful proof? When will you ever learn that just imagining something doesn't make it true?

That kind of chickenshit. The kind that smears the name of public servants that have the courage to stand up and call them out on a lie to the public.
Lie? What lie? Again, just saying that something is a lie doesn't make it so, no matter how many times you repeat it.

I believe you refer to such people as "decisive" and "couragous."
Of course GWB is decisive and courageous! He knows the difference between right and wrong and tenaciously sticks to his plans because he knows it's the right thing to do, despite the wailing from the lunatic left. He stuck to the tax cuts while you lefties ridiculed him for his economic plan. As a result, the economy recovered nicely from the triple whammy it suffered from Clinton's recession, 9/11 and the corporate scandals. He did the right thing, and history will record his success!
Millions of purple fingers told the tale of Iraqis who embraced democracy, despite the disbelief of you lunatics. Time and time again, Bush has proved his courage and leadership. But if you want to see a coward, just look at Clinton who couldn't make a decision without first taking a poll. What kind of leader depends on the electorate to make decisions for them? Cowardly ones, like Clinton! You've got it all backwards!

Sunday, October 30, 2005 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

The lie that Iraq was trying to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger. His economic plan that has resulted in a net job loss and the largest debt of any nation, in history, ever. The Bush recession didn't start until Bush was well in office and was aggravated by his tax cuts, but of course that reality does not stop morons from trying to blame Clinton for thier own stupidity (so much for personal responsibility from those cowards)On top of all that, you now say anyone that thinks Iraq was a bad idea is now the lunatic left. Well the polls show that is now most of the country. You don't want them on the right? Fine, we will be glad to have them.

Sunday, October 30, 2005 2:07:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Too good to not post here. I just came across the article. This is written by Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson - who himself is black.

WND Exclusive Commentary Moral poverty cost blacks
in New Orleans
Posted: September 21, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:

1. What would you do?

2. What would you do if you were black?

Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.

For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, then you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.

No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.

Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on "racist" President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans, above and beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. Perfect: Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in America, "overseeing" billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will end up.

Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform – legally and practically – fell first on the mayor of New Orleans. We are now all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin – the black Democrat who likes to yell at President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately, do not support Nagin's wailing. As the Washington Times puts it, "recent reports show [Nagin] failed to follow through on his own city's emergency-response plan, which acknowledged that thousands of the city's poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city."

One wonders how there was "no way" for these people to evacuate the city. We have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by now – the photo showing 200 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin?

Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining New Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We know how that plan turned out.

About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.

President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New Orleans' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves.

All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty – not their material poverty – that cost them dearly in New Orleans. Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated – they will only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral corruption. New Orleans, to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to tell them so.

Monday, October 31, 2005 8:27:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

Bill: Please locate an article for me where Bush says that we are going to war with Iraq b/c they are buying yellowcake from Niger. Seriously, is this all you have for a "lie"? Please tell me that you do understand that the CIA provided intelligence that supported the fact that Iraq had WMDs. Please tell me that you are aware that the Germans, Russians, Great Britain, and the pathetic UN also supported this from the intelligence that was written. Please tell me that you do understand that Iraq DID have WMDs and that they were found and confiscated in 2004. Oh, wait, you only read leftist theories that were pulled out of the air and buy them as your reality. Here's a reality check for you Bill: Michael Moore is a fatass. Oops, now on to the real point - he's manufacturing his own "truth" and selling it you b/c he knows you'll buy it. He's an embarrassment that even John Kerry himself wanted nothing to do with him.

Also, go track the stock market indices 6 months prior to GWB being sworn in as President and track the unemployment rates during the Clinton years and Bush years. After come back here and apologize for your not either understanding fact or your being too lazy to actually look up facts for yourself and just reading the biased moveon.org for your news.

Monday, October 31, 2005 8:48:00 AM  
Anonymous jeskibuff said...

The lie that Iraq was trying to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger.
But GWB never said that, did he? He said that British Intelligence said that Iraq was trying to buy the yellowcake. Unless British Intelligence didn't say that, that is NOT a lie, is it? The Brits backed it up, so it's not a lie. It's that simple.

His economic plan that has resulted in a net job loss and the largest debt of any nation, in history, ever.
Sorry to burst your bubble again, but the "triple whammy" accounted for the loss in jobs. Clinton recession/911/corporate scandals. Add in the detriments Clinton implemented (affecting Bush's term) like the change in H-1B visas and it's no wonder we had a tough time.

The Bush recession didn't start until Bush was well in office and was aggravated by his tax cuts
Sorry bud, but too much recorded history already shows the dot com collapse began in the Clinton administration. The stock market was tumbling before GWB took office. To say that Bush was responsible for an economy that was in freefall BEFORE he took office is ridiculous.

Let's imagine Clinton and GWB riding in a car along California's Highway 1. Willy is driving. He sees a fat woman in a short skirt and takes his eyes off the road long enough to send the car careening over a cliff. Before it hits bottom, Willy gives the keys to GWB and says "Here, YOU take the wheel". Sorry, but there's nothing GWB could have done to stop that momentum. And once again, the tax cuts only helped to stimulate the economy. Tell us how, oh brilliant one, could they have aggravated it? I'd like to hear this fairy tale! You liberals said things would only get worse if the tax cuts were implemented. GWB said "stay the course". They not only didn't get worse, they got better! GWB was right, you libs were wrong! Surrender to the harsh bitter reality of it or continue to live in denial!

You really need to understand the relationships between "cause" and "effect". Over 100,000 people died last Christmas during the Bush administration. News alert: Bush didn't kill them; a tsunami did. Unemployment just skyrocketed in Louisiana. Sorry to disappoint, but Bush didn't just cause people to lose their jobs. Katrina did. Just because the effects are felt during a Presidency doesn't mean the President caused the situation. I don't think it can get much clearer than that.

you now say anyone that thinks Iraq was a bad idea is now the lunatic left. Well the polls show that is now most of the country. You don't want them on the right? Fine, we will be glad to have them.
One thing we conservatives have learned through the years is to not take poll data at face value. Just a little closer inspection reveals that the questions have been rigged or the sampling has been rigged. There have been so many documented instances where Democrats have attempted to sway the polls...I'm sure we could find some deviant twiddling on DU today if we did a little searching! And most conservatives are too smart to ever consider the left wing platform worth defecting to. Ever heard the name "Jeb Eddy"? Click on the link, I dare you! There's a perfect example of yet another lame attempt by Democrats to color public opinion. But we'll be more than happy to send you our lunatics. We have one on CU who claims he's a hard-core conservative...he calls himself "John C. Calhoun". We call him "crazy Johnnie". He's all yours!

Besides, we've learned to ignore all the accusations you throw at us. Why is Tom Delay smiling in his mug shot? He KNOWS this is just another game that liberals are playing and will lose. Just like Rathergate. Just like Fahrenheit 9/11. Just like the Downing Street memos. Just like the Katrina accusations. Merry Fitzmas! Watching you libs attack this administration is as amusing as watching Wile E. Coyote pursue the Roadrunner! Everything keeps blowing up in your faces! Just look! Joe Wilson's credibility is just beginning to unravel!

Meep meep!

More Dog Poetry

Is 'lizabeth trying for a role?
Is lead actress to be her life goal?
Alas, film's been shot
St. Bernard got the spot
Drat, Liz would play Cujo with SOUL!!

Monday, October 31, 2005 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous jeskibuff said...

Hey Brook!

Still happy about Miers? If so, your fellow DUhmasses desperately need some cheering up.

Really, you guys should learn a lesson here about cheering on anything because it isn't what GWB wants. I doubt if you'll learn it though...you're doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over and over...

Monday, October 31, 2005 1:54:00 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

Where are the posts?? I bet you guys are seething about the CIA leak - just too bad she wasn't a covert agent. The Supreme Ct. nomination doesn't help right now for you guys either. You're gonna have to go over to moveon.org to find some other fabrication of truth to jump on. Please hurry b/c I need something to entertain me.

Monday, October 31, 2005 2:50:00 PM  
Anonymous jeskibuff said...

Yes, Robert, I feelh yur painh!

I think they're playing hide and seek with us now. ("Pretend we don't see them and hope they go away")

Don't be disappointed, though! There's still PLENTY of raw meat to chew on around here. My next destination will probably be Brook's "Homeboy" dream. I'll have to read it again (just browsed through it once), but I anticipate having some fun with it!

Seek and ye shall find! ;)

Monday, October 31, 2005 5:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Actually we all have jobs and don't have time to play with children all day. Maybe when you get out of middle school you can get a job! Won't that be fun!

Monday, October 31, 2005 5:38:00 PM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

No, Jeskibluff, ANYBODY can outspell Robert. Even BILL can outspell Robert. I already feel superior to Robert in every way, but if I didn't, one look at his baby blog, with its 1890's font logo and all that reveals about his reactionary-to-the-point-of-romanticism outlook would've sent me well on my way. Y'all are dreaming of a world that never existed, "where men were men and we all could use a man like Herbert Hoover again." But Archie Bunker was funny and you're not. As far as getting my news from MoveOn, I don't, but if I did, it beats getting it from where you and your CU cronies get yours, Rush Limbaugh. Let's see: Rush- bloviating, uneducated, OxyContin-addicted, never claimed it was news, just "entertainment" vs. silicon valley entrepreneurs, successful enough to start MoveOn on their own time, now it's making enough of a difference to scare the dickless wonders at CU and all over the place...hmmm...Maybe I SHOULD give them assloads of money...

Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:15:00 PM  
Blogger bill said...

Exactly how much is an "Assload"?

And where have our playmates gone? Are those big burley manly men too scared to sign on in order to post? Surely men as brave and courageous as those must be brave enough to log in. Or are they emulating King George and his merry men by hurling barbs while hiding safely behind other's names?

Friday, November 04, 2005 7:20:00 AM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

Kind of depends on how big your ass is, I guess, or maybe, in the case of certain Ones Who Will No Longer Be Named, how big an ass you've made of yourself. And I'd also like to take this opportunity to say that if I had the choice between playing a dog in a movie, and Jeskibuff in real life, I'd go for the dog in a heartbeat, because not only would it have more soul, I'd also feel a lot more dignified, even if the role called for sniffing other dog's butts. Way more dignified than how Jeski spends his time, and more intelligent, too.

Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:32:00 PM  
Blogger bill said...

Maybe Elizabeth, they don't want to come around here any longer for fear their neocon friends will laugh at them for having thier asses kicked by a girl..

Great job Elizabeth!!!

Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:55:00 PM  
Blogger elizabeth said...

Why thank you, Bill dahling, I'll take my curtain calls and then hang out with you and all the rest of my fans in the green room directly ; ))

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:31:00 PM  
Blogger Brook said...

hey you guys -- it's kinda creepy in here. emerge from the oubliette... this way...

http://johnsoncity.blogspot.com/2005/11/something-fishy-with-this-bush.html

how can no one have anything to say about jenna's BUSH?! cripes... let it go... :)

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:45:00 PM  

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