I sincerely wish I could help Spam, but as of this time I can only confirm that I was in on the planning of the first 3 or 4, I think 3 were held at Dr. Spangler's farm, and the last was a road trip to New Orleans. I made the BBQ sauce, though Roland and Tony usually cooked the ribs. At the first one I played Ralph to a draw in Trivial Pursuit. There was alot of beer, and usually Quarterbacks could be shut down for the weekend when we held one......Anybody up for it again????